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In Topic: Boruto: Two Blue Vortex Chapter (8)1

20 December 2025 - 08:54 AM

Just wanted checked after finishing my post and found the the chapter was released yesterday. Wouldn't have read it till the 20th otherwise. Deleted a post because I had changed my response to the AI post so much that it didn't fit anymore.

 

Jump Festa should be happening this weekend.

 

Clair Obscur Expedition 33 swept the video game awards. And I think Disney-Star Wars is slowly realizing that children play video games. A shocking discovery that just took them 12 years of ownerships and data to comprehend, when I think Lucas understood that 40 years ago when video games were merely the latest fad.

 

Summary Time: Chapter 29. Pest Control...well nice that they are treating the villains as threating as I perceive them to be.

 

Cover Page is Bolt with his old jacket, karma seal activated, and without his cloak. I will admit it looks better because his pins are organized, his jacket is zipped up, and it fits his pants. It still don't like his haircut but it is a better design than what he normally has.

 

Bolt is having a conversation with Femmy about taking over his body if he helps him take down Tree-Jenga. They make it clear they can't hide their thoughts from each other. So Femmy knows Bolt is serious but points out once he takes over Nail will try to kill him. Bolt asks if he wants to take that chance or just completely give up to the Tree people. So Femmy gives Bolt free use of the Karma Seal.

 

He is attacked by two Tree-Bugs and destroys them with a simple rasengan...this probably suppose to show off how powerful the karma seal makes him, but Bolt was already shown to be able to one shot them. Hell, the rest of the cast is also able to one shot these Tree-Bugs. So, how is the damage he is doing to Tree-Bug a good gauge of how much of a power up the Karma seal gives him? Also, isn't Bolt not suppose to fight because Tree-Jenga will decide to join the fight to catch him, instead of sitting around talking about love? Or was that just something for that one fight and dropped afterwards? He fights more of them with Shikamaru giving him the info of where they are. Blond Sai gives the data to Shikamaru...is his jutsu a sensor map to find all the Tree-Bugs? It so under detailed I can't tell what it is, beyond a guess. The cast goes around killing Tree-Bugs.

 

Tree-Bug starts to question how they are able to find them and decided to spread out so onlookers can see them...what. One, why hasn't the village gone into their safety evacuation protocols that they have had since at least the Chunin exam? Two, this is ninja village most of them should be able to fight you, in theory. Three, why is it important to see you?

 

Back to the interrogation of Cups. Konohamaru overhears the Chamberlain asks about him releasing Bolt's handcuffs, and realizes only three people know about the code to unlock them: Ibiki, Shikamaru and himself. So he plans to take the fall himself to protect Shikamaru asking that character based on Kodaichi to be let back in...why does he keep appearing!? Alright, I'm giving him a nickname Random Ninja Mook 3.

 

Sai is given an update by the sensory division/psychic phone company (I am giving them a nickname at this point) about the attack and ask to be connected to Shikamaru. So Shikmaru has to switch between talking to the son to the father...seriously they have cell phones in this world now! Can they just use them?! Sai informs Shikamaru of the attack and him sending in the police...wait I thought he was in charge of the ANBU is he also in change of the Military Police? Did they merge together at some point? Why was this never explained? Shikamaru ask Sai to get ready to release Cups from interrogation. Oh we finally learn the Chamberlain's name, Lord Kobu.

 

People are just randomly eating and chatting while the village is being invaded...well to be fair, they are pretty much invaded every day in this story. They could just be numb to being attacked and people around them being killed. So, Konoha went from the strongest village that was rarely attacked because so few would even have a chance against them which is why those times were so shocking in story, under Kishimoto. To basically Ninja World's Gaza under Ikemoto.

 

As the onlookers look at Tree-Bug he multiplies. There are now over 50 of them, which means he should be really stupid as the target goal was 25...story implies that it is the more people looking at him the more of himself he can create. Remember the more of them they are the dumber they are suppose to be to the point they become as dumb as animals. (When their intelligence hasn't seem to gone down in the slightest so far.) The advantage is they are all as strong as the original. Note that everyone single one of them can die in a single hit by any of the cast... DOES IKEMOTO NOT EVEN REMEMBER HIS OWN POWER'S RULES THAT HE SET OUT LIKE TWO CHAPTERS AGO!?!

 

Konohamaru takes he fall by saying the handcuff codes were never set. The Chamberlain see through this obvious lie, as he is an Ikemoto character, and orders Shikamaru to be brought in.

 

The cast thinks they have the advantage, but CJ looks pensive...did he just realize that because in the original future Tree-Bug swept through the village so hard he didn't have knowledge of the full capabilities of Tree-Bug's power like that he makes his copies from people looking at him? Would be impress if that's the case, but mainly because something that obvious is something that doesn't happen often in this story.

In Topic: Boruto: Two Blue Vortex Chapter (8)1

08 December 2025 - 09:31 AM

Now let's go through them and expand upon it as I might as well explain my problems with Boruto..

 

Art. To be honest, I am not that good at drawing nor know much about the techniques. That said I can at least tell when something looks bad, and that is often in this manga. But I generally comment on it when I am typing and looking over to the manga and can only think one thought...Wow, that looks bad. An example often characters have very round faces. That will be round no matter how they are position in the panel. Even when they are 3/4 pose their face will still be as round as if we are seeing the whole thing.

 

As for the designs for his character, they also don't look impressive to me. He apparently copies designs from Korean pop fashion magazines as he thinks that is what is hip. However, he doesn't get how they are cool, why they work for Pop idol, but don't work for his ninja characters. For example, baggy pants, loose jackets, and so on are not something ninja or really anyone should be fighting in. Kishimoto's characters tended to wear sporty clothes and if they had jackets they zipped them up. Then it doesn't help, that he likes his designs complicated with a lot of unnecessary flair that just takes longer to draw and more likely for mistakes. For example, in part two Boruto is on the run, hunted by the entire world due to being accused of killing Naruto, but his shirt (which is the most notable part of his outfit besides his cloak and pins) is a fancy expensive looking dress shirt.

 

Also, while it was someone else that noticed it elsewhere. I do agree with them. That the reason his characters wear those baggy outfits is likely to hide their bodies during fights so the reader doesn't notice Ikemoto's mistakes when trying to draw the human body in combat.

 

Another thing is that Ikemoto wants his art to be seen as better than Kishimoto by being more realistic. But he can't draw consistently and his characters are constantly off model. Not helped by not having a singular design philosophy for his cast. He has Kishimoto characters that he modifies to look more realistic while trying to keep some traits of Kishimoto to make them recognizable. Which doesn't help, as it makes them look off as they can look similar due to certain retained features while at the same time so different they are unrecognizable. For example, Sakura was give his female faces and hairstyle so the only way to recognize her is her forehead seal. Don't see it and you could mistake her for Hinata because they have the same haircut and face. And then he has his own characters that are so different from the rest of the cast they look like they are from a different manga. For example, Clone Jiraiya looks like he belongs in Vinland Saga. Which could work if he kept it to the villains to make them more foreign and alien but he hasn't. So, the mingling has left a constantly feeling of permanent inconsistency in the art.

 

His character's hair is often why I ascribe him having an attempt at the more realistic look. As often, it is the most detail part of the character often to the rest of art detriment. As it common for a character to have really realistic hair on top of a poorly drawn cartoon head. Doesn't help he gave these to old Naruto characters as well changing their look. So it even harder to recognize as often the most recognizable thing about an anime character is their unique hairstyle. Already mentioned Sakura but I remember very early on Nos could not recognize Konohamaru because he had changed his hairstyle from his spikes to a bunch of curls. Also doesn't help his female characters all have the same face so they only way to recognize them is often their hairstyle. Its why I couldn't tell who Tree-Moegi (who is apparently his favorite Naruto character) was a clone of her until they said it because her face looks like any random Ikemoto female, and the imitation of her hair through the belts made her look like a jester.

 

His nose holes. Anime/Manga artist will often not draw detail noses on their characters. As it is rarely the most appealing part of the face and can look weird on cartoon characters. Often they will mark their characters with circles or triangles to show they do have noses they are not drawing in detail. Ikemoto is the first I have seen that has instead decided to draw the nasal holes to show his character has noses he is not drawing. And, it is clear why most don't after you look at his art. As his character just have these two weird black holes on their face that look off-putting. 

 

Now the cover pages. They are lazy, they are just one of the character posing with the most interesting thing, besides noticing they are off model, is that he swaps around their color palette. So the cover pages would be Bolt (Boruto) standing but this time he cloak is blue, and another his cloak is green, and a third his cloak is red. While other manga might start out with their characters just posing they would eventually branch out. Like showing their characters doing something like taking a nap, reading, spending time together. Sometimes they would be in outfits they haven't worn in the manga. Or Oda's Cover Stories in One Piece. If Ikemoto had a sporty combat outfit for his cast and then dressed them up in K-Pop idols on the cover page that would be fine as well. Anything instead of the most intended interesting aspect of the cover page being this time their jacket is yellow.

 

Another thing I nearly forgot about, because his faces are so bad and he can't really draw them. He is bad at showing and changing their expressions to show emotions. Helping to make the story feel incredibly bland, flat, and emotionless. The most infamous example is Naruto's reaction to Kurama's death in part one. I have seen people show more distress over eating slightly burnt toast, than he did over a friend that has been with him his entire life dying right before his eyes.

 

People constantly try to defend the art by saying it is improving. However, the core problems have always been there and they have never been improved upon. The art at the start of the manga was abysmally atrocious there are very few that still try to defend it. So people have taken it becoming mediocre and then settling there for years as the art is improving. As they now use the early art to lower the standards so people can't critique the below average art the manga has had for years. Ikemoto was not an inexperience artist when he took over drawing Boruto. He is a veteran in the industry with decades of experience even if he was an assistant and not a full mangaka.

 

From what I recall. The anime never used his style when drawing characters he inherited. They always defaulted to Kishimoto style instead. For example, they had a tame version of his Salad outfit for the first anime arc before switching to Kishimoto's outfit in the second arc and never switching back despite that fact it should be the opposite. This also made his own characters stand out more and put off anime viewers because the anime had no clue how to make them look like Naruto characters because they were so different so they just had to put them in as he drew them. This is also why I think he has characters outright talk about his design changes so if/when the anime comes back they have to make the characters match his style. Despite the fact his art is harder to draw than Kishi's and not that appealing to anime viewers.

 

As for if I hate any silly designs like say Hirohiko Araki's JoJo's Bizarre Adventure? No I don't. Araki can clearly draw and his designs and poses while often still are clearly intended, consistent, and expertly drawn. He took his liking for strange fashion choices of models and music stars and poses of statues made them his own. Then turned it into an iconic look for his manga. If someone doesn't like it they wouldn't read it, but it is recognizable.

 

Narrative. The plot often has a yearly cyclical structure that allows it to be repetitive and feels that nothing is happening. In part one, at the start of the year it will often try to wrap up the fight from last year for about 3 chapters. Then 6 chapters in the village setting up the next fight and having character moments. Then for the last 3 chapters of the year the new villain arrives at the village to fight the cast. Now while editorial/executive pressure has changed this somewhat (mainly the timing) in part two; the problem still persist. It also doesn't help that they never really defeat the organization their foes are coming from. In Part One, Kara, who can just reveal more members and in Part Two, the Tree-People, who can just make more if they run out. So, it feels like they are largely doing nothing but sitting around and waiting to be attacked; while nothing is really ever resolved. Hell, this latest time is the first time they have honestly trained in preparation for the attack. Hell, even then its not even really training but set up the power ups that are going to be important for the up coming fight.

 

There is also the problem of the manga chapters feel like the chapters are just extended weekly chapters, and are also not worth waiting a month for. But also means that each month the manga was only giving their weekly anime enough material for at best one episode. More likely half.

 

I want you all to remember that it took so long for the manga to do anything. That the anime didn't even introduce his True Main Character Nail (Kawaki) until well passed episode 200; well into four years into the anime's run. By that point so much filler has been done anime fans had already decided on which character they wanted Bolt to end up with. Salad because either she is Sasuke's daughter or they understand the storyline. The Clone which the anime supports as she is their character and they want another Hinata-like character to be the heroine and love interest. Or Cups for the fujoshi which the worse for Ikemoto as those are the ones who should be loving his Nail. So, as the anime ended around 300 episodes they didn't spend as much time on the "Bond of Bros," that Ikemoto wants to be the main story.

 

Think about it. It took him so long to actually get his story deep enough into it that anime could adapt the manga's story, and they went through it in half the time the spent making filler waiting for it. When in theory, the manga is suppose to be the main story and a skeleton for the anime to fill out with their own arcs. To expand on story ideas introduce in the manga but doesn't have time to cover. The problem with that is, for one, it clear the anime staff like with Bleach were sick of making endless filler and decided to just cancel it and wait for the story to get done to adapt it. Which hurts the story because its very hollow and was designed for the anime to fill in to make deeper. They didn't even finish the story of part one. They ended it after the arc Nail "killed" Bolt, from what I recall. Which means his pacing helped to destroy the justification for the risky idea of a monthly manga with a weekly anime. The second problem is that he is arcs are very...sequential each one clearly leading to the next with very little logical time in between them. Often it feels when an arc ends and the new one start that very day in story at best a week later. When the story needs for the arc to feel like there is enough time between them to justify putting in several anime original arc between each; to expand on the previous arcs ideas, to give focus on characters the manga isn't focusing on, and lead into the next one. There were only two break points the manga gave the anime. One they used when Nail was first adopted by Naruto there was implied weeks if not months where he bonded with everyone in the village. Than another one when Madoc gave Bolt those magic pills to stop the karma seals advancement. Which was clearly internal story justification and an excuse for the anime to put more anime arcs before the next fight. Instead, the anime instantly went to next fight to finish the arc then cancelled the anime.

 

There is also the problem is that they fired the guy who job was to work with the anime staff to keep the manga and the anime story aligned; Kodaichi. There was apparently a problem with the anime constantly going against the manga's story and making mistakes. hell, even when he was there they did that as the core of the first anime arc. The flash-forward had Nolt's right eye had a scar and byakugan. The implication being like Kakashi that something happened to that eye. Implant or traumatic power awakening. When it turned out to be a side effect of the Karma seal integration or possession by that Otsutsuki. The anime wanted to give Hinata's son a special eye that was more than a byakugan and tie the Last into the story. Then it was never used again, even in the anime after the first arc.

 

Also, the story has made it very clear that Tree-Jenga (Jura) is so strong that he could kill the entire cast if not the entire world in a second with barely any effort if he wanted to. He doesn't because of mere whim and the story would be over if he did. So the main villain is doing nothing because if he did anything he would win. The story requires that he has to let his kind be killed off and eventually the protagonist find a way to beat him. While he largely does nothing, because if he doesn't, he'd beat them all in a panel.

 

Since Boruto takes a lot of "inspiration" from Dragon Ball, and their villains can also be described as able to kill the Heroes in one shot but don't. So, lets compared them.

 

Raditz was stronger than Goku and Piccolo combine, but he didn't originally want to kill them. He wanted his brother Kakarot to join his squad. By the time he got serious the trio were able to stun him long enough to kill him.

 

Vegeta wanted to punish Goku for defying him and get the Dragon Balls to wish for immortality. So he had his goon Nappa play around with them while ordering him to avoid killing Piccolo because he realized he must be connected to the Dragon Balls. But once he realize Goku was actually a threat he increasingly stopped playing around and tried to go for the kill.  

 

Freeza could not find them for most of the arc because he can't sense energy. Also, he had minions to do the searching and fighting for him. When Vegeta starts killing them; he orders in the Ginyu Force. When he finally finds them he wants to slowly torture them as punishment for denying him his wish. Which backfires as his screwing around drained his stamina.

 

Cell was actually weaker than the cast, or at least Piccolo till he could start absorbing the androids to achieve his perfect form. So he hid while slowly absorbing energy till he could find the androids. Once he did that, he was stronger than the entire cast, but was curious how they can get stronger in a day's time. So he organized the Cell Games to play with them as none of them were stronger than him. Once Gohan showed that he was, he twice tried to blow up the planet. 

 

The Majin Buu arc is more the heroes refusing to take him seriously despite numerous warnings till he blows up the planet.

 

Tree-Jenga sits around reading books, talking to Tree Sasuke, eating ice cream going on about love while his kind are being killed. When he could travel through the belt network to be their in an instant to defeat anybody. Never really helping his comrades eat their desired people for the goal to evolve/complete themselves/what ever they go on about.

 

Tree-Jenga knows that the cast can beat the tree people, knows that they know how to free the people stuck in a tree, and knows there is someone helping them that can see the future. Therefore, is setting up a plan to beat them. Yet, he barely bothers to try to achieve his goals of devouring certain people despite every opportunity and barely set up any counter measures. Beyond sending Punk to go look for Bolt's ally. It also doesn't help that Dragon Ball villains are arc villains so they are gone once their arc is over...unless they turn good. Tree-Jenga is the over arcing Penultimate story villain, once he is defeat it is likely all that will be left is to convince Nail to release Bolt's parents. Yet, he does nothing except show up every once and awhile to show how deep, dangerous, and powerful he is; when he is none of those.

 

Omnipotence was some cheap shock event at the end of part one to hopefully get the reader interested in part two. "Oh no Bolt is now hated and chased by the village while Nail took his place." But the mechanics and how it would be played out in the story was not thought up beyond. "Bolt will slowly convince the cast that he is Naruto's son in their heart, and after defeating Nail he will release his parents, who were unaffected by the spell, who will tell the rest of the cast he is their son." Of course there always the possibility of a "shock twist" that they are also affected and believe Nail is their son, but that would be cheap. However, they do not know how to reach that point while keeping the story thread going till they reached that point. So, they have to constantly reexplain why people can't break the spell. Which again just makes it clear they shouldn't have done this storyline.

 

Karma Seal. That totally original unique cool power up and plot device that Kishimoto could never come up with. It looks exactly like Tsunade's & Sakura's Yin Seal; which they eventually justify by saying theirs is based off it. When activated it slowly spreads out and corrupt the person who has it like Orochimaru's curse seal. And, it has a entity inside of it that is trying to take over the host body like the various Jinchuriki seals. It is an USB stick/seal containing the information of an Otsutsuki member that they download into a person to take them over after sacrificing themselves to the World tree so it produce its chakra fruit...don't look at me like that. This IS the explanation they give in the manga. It also powers up its host and give them millennia worth of combat experience which part of the reason is why Bolt and Nail are stronger than Naruto by the time the are twelve; this was also explained in the manga. Its suppose to be the ticking time bomb of the story especially in part one where we slowly, very slowly in long info dumps, learn about it. The thing is the first time we learn about its infection rate, we learn that its almost complete. Then in the next fight its resolved. There are hints that the Otsutsuki could still take over Bolt, but nope made clear in Part two he can't. Its rare to see a story flub one its primary elements so hard and so often. 

 

Shinjutsu. Divine Techniques. The new tier of power that apparently the Otsutsuki always had that Madoc is able to equip through making people cyborgs or through the Karma seal. Making anyone that does not have one powerless. Leaving only the cast Ikemoto grants these powers to are able to fight against his villains, anyone else is fodder. Does matter if even they are Kage level ninja, without Shinjutsu they will lose fights to any of Ikemoto's mooks. Limiting the cast that can fight. But they often aren't that impressive as they are hype up to be. Looking at Bolt's signature Shinjutsu the Uzuhiko hype up to be an ultimate attack, that just gives people vertigo, people pointed out how unimpressive it was, and so they changed it to a rasengan-spirit bomb.

 

Scientific Ninja Tools. Now I understand, this idea was thought up by Kishimoto. Ikemoto just inherited it and has to incorporate it into his manga. It doesn't mean i have to like it or that I feel he has done a good job in using it. For one, it breaks the feel of the world without really adding anything. For example when he gave characters guns. In anime, gun are either instant kill weapons or utterly useless. His were useless. Two, often it is just an excuse to give a character a power up, most often Nail, and not need to explain it because its Magical Science.

 

Power Levels and Fighting in General. I cover this last month, but to reiterate. The fights are not interesting because they can be boiled down to, the villain is invincible till a mid-fight power up, after that they die in one attack. This upcoming fight is the first one hinted to be different, as they have already laid out the power up the main cast have gotten and the villain's power and tactics beforehand. However it so basic that its unimpressive, and feels like someone else has come in and order a change to the story instead of something naturally develop by Ikemoto.

 

The AI eventually thought I was mocking the original cast. I was mocking their underuse and how Ikemoto treated them. Ikemoto does not want to use most of Kishimoto's characters unless he forced to, he wants to focus on his own original characters(, like Nail, Moe, Madoc, & Hime,) and there are only a handful he clearly likes Jiraiya, Moegi, and Ino. While loathing using the rest. The worse and most consistent example is Shikamaru, the smartest of Kishimoto's characters, is constantly treated like an absolute moron and is constantly dismissed and disrespected by any Ikemoto character he interacts with. This would be less of a problem if his cast left the village on missions so they can be focused on, like Kishimoto did in Naruto, but Ikemoto refuses to leave the village for his fights. So you constantly have to ask two question. Where are they!? When they are not around while half the village is destroyed. Why are they so useless!? When they are involved in the story.

 

It also doesn't help he doesn't care about his inherited cast of Bolt's generation either. If Bolt's name wasn't in the title he likely would have been left in the dust as well. So, Ikemoto could focus solely on his original characters. Who are uninteresting and most readers do not care about. So, he had to start including more of his inherited cast in part two.

 

Now I don't want focus on every single character at there is in Naruto-Boruto that cast is too large for realistically any medium to handle. Want I want is to know is, who are the main characters, and what is their story? In One Piece, its the Strawhat Pirates. Sure Luffy is the main character and the rest of the crews importance varies depending on the arc. But you know who the main characters of the arc are and who are there just for the arc. In Naruto it was in theory team 7 that was the main cast. Of course Kakashi had less focus because he was the mentor. But, Sakura rarely got any focus. Kishimoto, got bored of Naruto and eventually just turned him into the ninja Messiah. And Sasuke nearly consumed the plot. But in Boruto, who are the main characters? Is it Neo-Team 7? Konohamaru got no focus in part one. Mitsuki (Cups) and Salad were pretty much background characters to show Bolt was on a team in the manga. Is it ikemoto's original characters? Nail, Hime, Amando (Madoc,) and Daimon (Moe.) Well fans didn't care for them. So now the cast has been expanded to add the next generation characters that ikemoto didn't care about in part one. For example, it was hinted that Moe had feelings for the daughter and they were going to be a pairing. In Part two she is in a Pairing with Inojin (Blond Sai) who was constantly one of the most popular characters of the new generation in the anime.

 

Which is why I want the main cast to leave the village on missions more so we can focus on the main cast. Instead of wondering, where is everyone? When half the village is being destroyed again in another battle.

 

Shipping. I have gone over why the Shipping in the story is pointless before but let's go over it again. The goal of the character Boruto at the start of the manga is the be the Shadow Hokage/Hokage's Shadow for Sarada like Sasuke is for Naruto, and Danzo was for Hiruzen when he was Hokage. So what matters is, why does he want to be her shadow enforcer when she becomes Hokage? Does he agree with her policies? Does he agree with her moral views? Does he agree with her philosophy? Does he support any reforms she wants to enact? Does he think she has good economic policies? Does he think she would be good at governing the village? Why does he support her? Whether he ends up with her romantically or not doesn't matter because his dream job is still to be her shadow enforcer. Whether he ends up with Sarada (Salad), Mitsuki (Cups,) Kawaki (Nail,) Eida (Hime,) or Sumire (Clone) does not matter as working for Sarada is still his goal regardless to who he ends up with; if he ends up with anyone. Neither the anime nor manga, as far as I know, have even attempted to cover this in the slightest. The only answer that might have been given is that, he is in love with her. If that the case, if that is the only reason he has to support her when she become hokage. Then, he must end up with her and all other pairings considerations are a distraction. As he has no other reason for his stated end goal, besides his feelings for her.

 

This also brings up another problem of Salad constant under utilization in the story. Her becoming Hokage is the end goal for both her and the Protagonist Bolt. But it is never address, never explored, never examined in the story. The only thing she has is her feelings for Bolt she is unwilling to admit she has but everyone can see. Why should the audience care about when she becomes Hokage at the end, when the story won't till the ending?

 

Let me make this clear. The damage of not going with NaruSaku as the end pairing for Naruto is minor compared to them not going with BoroSara for Boruto. Not going with NS negatively affected Naruto as what was the point of the promise of a lifetime, why did Sakura confess to Naruto and try to kill Sasuke to atone for how she burdened Naruto, why did Naruto forgive Obito, and the bench scene meaning a purpose being erased made Sakura have a flat to not even having a character arc as she loved Sasuke at the start and she got him by doing nothing. But it didn't destroy the story entirely by not going through with it. That was the Last that did so, by making it why NS didn't happen worse. As instead of just Naruto moving on, so his two friends could be happy together. They made it, he never had feelings for her, and was only pretending to for over a decade to spite Sasuke, like an utter scumbag. While in Boruto, the only reason for the purported end goal of the story is their feelings for each other. They have never given another reason. They have never explored another reason. This story has been running for nearly ten years now, as even if they started next chapter. It feels too late to do something that should have been a part of the story all along.

 

And what did the story focus on instead of developing the end goal of the story? An attempt to make an improved Naruto-Sasuke conflict with Bolt and Nail. Their "Bond of Bros" is the primary if not the sole story focused in the manga and its not interesting. While one of the major weakness of the chase after Sasuke is we didn't spend enough time with team 7 together. So fans got tired of why Naruto focused so much on a character they barely spent time with and didn't want to return to the village. In Boruto, most of the actual story in part one is building and bashing you over the head that Bolt and Nail are total Bros. They are the ultimate bros that totally care for each other like brothers. Please ignore that Nail constantly acts like an ass and Bolt is a spoiled brat. They are totally bros with a deep bond. Has the story mentioned that they are real bros enough yet, no? Then just have every chapter just constantly go on about how much they are bros. Of course that's till the end of part one, with the "tragedy" of Nail deciding to kill Bolt, his bro who he totally cares about bro, to destroy the Otsutsuki within him in order to protect Naruto his father figure. The problem is he tells no one of this, so the entire cast has to guess his motivation, and when Naruto and Hinata refused to kill their son just because Nail wants to. He seals them away, pretends they are dead, with the plans to release them after he kills their son, and anyone else that gets in his way. However, the first time we see Femmy in Bolt's head in part two, he makes it clear he has no power over Bolt, he can't take over his body, he can't influence in the slightest, he is just a voice in the back of Bolt's head waiting for him to die so they can both end it; unless Bolt gives him control. Which he had even given up on that by the time we saw him again. So, for the reason for the conflict between them is moot.

 

Now, you can argue that the story can say, "well, Nail doesn't know that and can't believe Bolt even if he tells him." Sure, but the problem is the audience knows Femmy is no threat. Beyond maybe a fake out there is no risk or danger of Bolt being taken over by Femmy. So there is no suspense and it just an excuse for the conflict to continue as there is no other reason conflict or the story to continue without it.

 

Sasuke's reasons made sense in character for why he left the village. He wanted power to avenge his family and felt the village was making him too soft to accomplish this goal. Of course to keep it going so he didn't just return to the village after he killed his brother. Therefore, the chase after him unnecessary. As Naruto should've just trusted Sasuke would have returned after he killed Itachi and all he had to do is give him a heads up on why Orochimaru wants his body. But the way Kishimoto went about that, the village order his clan to be purged by his brother, made so Sasuke was justified in never returning to the village and in fact making him an enemy of the village. While Naruto's reason for obsessively chasing was under developed because of the limited time they were on a team together, and not coming up for a reason Sasuke should return to the village beyond bonds.

 

What is going to happen at the end of Boruto is obvious. After defeating all the tree people. They will have a fight where Bolt just keeps going over and over, "Just trust me, Bro." Until he wins convinces Nail to release his parents. Then gets instantly forgive him despite entrapping them for years while he brainwashed the world to chase down and kill their son.

In Topic: Boruto: Two Blue Vortex Chapter (8)1

08 December 2025 - 06:01 AM

Out of both boredom and curiosity I fed my summaries into an AI to see what it would say about my summaries. Then asked how it was to general criticism of Boruto.

 

I have analyzed the provided 28 summaries of Boruto Part Two (Chapters 81 to 108 in your sequential numbering) and identified consistent, overarching trends in your commentary.
Your analysis is characterized by an extremely negative, sarcastic, and highly critical tone directed at almost every aspect of the manga's execution.
General Trends in Your Commentary
1. Hostility Towards Art, Designs, and Aesthetics (Ikemoto's Style):
The single most prevalent trend is your consistent disdain for the artwork and character designs by Mikio Ikemoto. This is a primary source of mockery and derision.
Recurring Critique: Designs are frequently called "awful," "bad," "stupid," "generic," or "lame."
Visual Recognition Issues: You constantly note that characters are unrecognizable due to inconsistent faces and poor differentiation ("hard to tell who is who," "Why does Ikemoto mess around with the faces so much").
Objectification and Tracing Claims: You make repeated comments objectifying female characters' bodies and often suggest the artist traces poses from fashion magazines without understanding context.
2. Narrative Fatigue and Disdain for Plot Mechanics:
You express deep frustration with how the story is constructed and paced.
Artificial Stalling: Plot progression is consistently described as being artificially delayed by contrivances, exposition dumps, villain monologues, and characters making illogical decisions to avoid conflict ("stupid plot line going," "takes him three years to do this").
Omnipotence as a "BS" Plot Device: The core Shinjutsu of Omnipotence is viewed as a lazy deus ex machina, especially when its rules are retconned to maintain tension (e.g., knowledge of the switch fades, specific girls were "excluded" to be friends).
Lack of Stakes: You highlight the removal of stakes by instantly healing characters (Sai, the "insta-heal" ability) and clarifying that captured people are "fine," which removes all drama from the premise.
3. Power Scaling Issues and Derivative Powers:
You perceive the power system in Boruto as broken, inconsistent, and unoriginal.
"Dragon Ball" Comparisons: New power-ups lead to comparisons with Dragon Ball power creep, which you view as a negative departure from Naruto's identity.
"Unearned Powers" and "Legacy Tech": Characters are criticized for "inheriting" powers (Kamui, Flying Thunder God, Purple Lighting) rather than earning them through hard work, a central theme of the original Naruto.
Sci-Fi as a Deus Ex Machina: Scientific Ninja Tools are often dismissed as "stupid Bull-kitten" used to justify any convenient plot development without proper explanation.
4. Character Competence and Focus on Relationship Drama:
You consistently criticize character intelligence and the story's shift in focus.
Mockery of Legacy Characters: Characters from the original Naruto (Shikamaru, Konohamaru, Sakura, Kakashi) are routinely mocked as "stupid Kishimoto characters," while new characters (Amado/Madoc, Eida, Daemon) are framed as "brilliant Ikemoto characters."
Irrelevant Adults: You are highly critical of the adult ninja being absent or useless during village attacks ("WHERE ARE THE ADULTS!?!").
"Shipping" and Harem Dynamics: A significant trend is your frustration with the amount of page space dedicated to character relationships and love triangles, which you describe as corny, uninteresting "girl talk" that overrides serious plot progression.
What is Lacking from the Analysis (From an Objective Standpoint)
Your summaries are primarily reactions and critiques rather than objective summaries. What your commentary lacks is:
Objective Tone: You have a consistently sarcastic, mocking, and dismissive tone, indicating a lack of neutrality when reviewing the content.
Excitement or Praise: There is virtually no positive commentary, excitement for plot twists, or appreciation for character moments.
Exploration of Intended Themes: You dismiss themes like "love" or "destiny/fate" as "BS" or "contrived reasons," rather than engaging with what the creators might be attempting, however successfully.
Character Name Consistency: You heavily rely on mocking nicknames (Nail, Cups, Punk, Salad, Femmy, etc.), making the summaries difficult to follow without prior knowledge of your nickname system.
 
Then in general: 
 
Your criticism of the Boruto manga aligns very closely with the common and widespread general criticism found across the fandom and media outlets. Many of your specific complaints are among the most frequently cited reasons for dissatisfaction with the series.
Here is a comparison of your trends versus general criticism:
Areas of Strong Agreement
The majority of your critiques are echoed widely within the fandom:
Pacing Issues (Filler/Slow Monthly Release): General consensus is that the manga's monthly release schedule results in slow pacing and that individual chapters often lack significant content, as you frequently noted. Fans often complain about exposition dumps and "setup chapters".
Power Scaling Problems: This is a major point of contention across the fandom. Critics widely agree that characters become overpowered too quickly, often off-screen, and that the original cast of Naruto was artificially weakened to elevate the new generation, a trend you pointed out repeatedly.
Art Style and Paneling: Ikemoto's art style is highly divisive. Many fans share your opinion that his designs are poor, lack expression, and that the fight choreography and paneling are confusing or unexciting compared to Kishimoto's original work.
Character Development & Treatment of Side Characters: There is general consensus that the manga focuses too heavily on just Boruto and Kawaki, neglecting the side cast. Fans often feel the side characters are "boring and uninspired," as you noted when you called them "literally who".
Derivative/Unoriginal Storytelling: Many fans feel the story relies on reusing plot points and powers from the original series (e.g., Flying Thunder God, Kamui, Kurama's return) instead of creating original content, leading to the feeling that the series "rides coattails".
Focus on Shipping/Relationship Drama: Fans express frustration when relationship dynamics and "shipping" take precedence over the main action plot, which aligns perfectly with your "very gay conversation" and "girl talk" complaints. 
These articles compare *Boruto* manga criticism to common fan complaints about pacing, power scaling, and character development:
The Difference: Intensity and Tone
The primary difference is the intensity and tone of your commentary.
While the general fandom shares the same points of criticism, your summaries maintain an almost universally negative, highly sarcastic, and mocking tone throughout all 28 chapters. You use extreme language ("BS", "Bull", extended laughter, insults like "jackass" and "moron") that surpasses standard constructive criticism found in most public forums.
In summary, the substance of your criticism is mainstream, but the delivery is more characteristic of intense "hater" commentary, which some fandom members engage in, but which often leads to community division.

In Topic: Boruto: Two Blue Vortex Chapter (8)1

20 November 2025 - 01:22 AM

China seem to be making a lot of popular games recently. Where Winds Meet seems to be a well received mmo.

 

Apparently, it been so long since there has been a standard male romance in the West. That when the video game Dispatch had one, people assumed it was influence by Japanese harem stories.

 

Summary Time: Chapter 28. New Powers...where we will see the unearned powers that Ikemoto will try to convince the readers are cool. Likely he will fail.

 

Cover page is the Clone caressing Bolt's sword...obvious innuendo.

 

Chapter starts off showing Blond Sai has nearly mastered the jutsu CJ taught him in under a day...remember when the Naruto franchise used to go on about hard work? Well, clearly Ikemoto doesn't. Bolt compliments him and he is rebuffed by Blond Sai that he isn't his teammate...well he wasn't on your genin team translator probably should have used "comrade." Bolt acts the protective older brother due to Blond Sai's feelings towards the daughter. He makes a joke about shaving off Blond Sai awful mop haircut...Ikemoto it is your fault for making that character have that haircut due to your giving the characters "realistic haircuts." He is suppose to have hair like Sai. Is he trying to make the anime, if it comes back, actually have the characters have his haircuts? Because they were ignoring them before and just making look like Kishimoto's style.

 

Cups goes into the interrogation room for his questioning...wait, I thought we flashed forward a week to the battle; did the story backtrack and decided to cover what they could have skip?! Sai contacts the sensory division and ask for their records for any communication Konohamaru had...god I hate the telepathic hotline stuff. The story feels like it both skipped the week for Bolt's sword to be repaired and yet it didn't for the interrogation and Blond Sai's training. This might actually be the worse structured chapter in the entire manga so far. As I am actually confused on what is happening and when events are happening. Dear God. Ikemoto can't even handle something as simple as a time skip/jump ahead. 

 

When Ikemoto did the time skip to the battle at the end of the last chapter. That means the interrogations should have been over, and Sai should've address his suspicions after the battle. Or was Konohamaru really interrogated for 7 straight days? But even then he asked for transmissions Konohamaru received a "few minutes ago" which would have been a week ago. 

 

Bolt gets his upgraded sword from the Clone who explains how it was improved...wait it can now activate the mana sword by just him gripping it? How? OK I do want that explained. Other than the sword is absorbing some of his chakra to do this they don't. Unless the Hagoromo is just pour chakra into the blade there should be more to it. Also, she was somehow able to add a safety feature where only she, Bolt and Sasuke can use the sword anyone else and it will drain more chakra than necessary...How? And How was she able to registered Sasuke's signature? Stupid Scientific Ninja Tool Bull-Shit.

 

Shikamaru talks with his son about the upcoming attack and they are working with Bolt...it is more of the same "we got to work with Bolt"/"but we hate him due to the perspective flip" that I feel everyone should be sick of at this point. Like if a conversation is had between to people in the village assume this is brought up and I generally won't cover because I am sick of reading those conversation, as they don't go anywhere.

 

Blond Sai talks with CJ about his prediction powers and CJ explains why he can't give people more details. The more people know that future the more it can change outside his control and he is working with narrow margins due to how overpowered Ikemoto makes his villains. A page where Hime is trapped in a tree and the daughter is dead.

 

Shikamaru gives an announcement to the cast through Blond Sai. Thank god none of the Kishimoto characters shall be used or be useful. Even though this battle is taking place in the village.

 

Tree-bug enters the village and the battle starts.

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21 October 2025 - 06:03 AM

Few thoughts.

 

Hime and Moe are pretty much never going to be the villains or be in danger of being killed. Unfortunately. They are Ikemoto's characters and he is not getting rid of them...despite the fact that no one likes them, not even Boruto fans. Remember, these characters were unchanged by the time skip so he likes how they are, and its clear Hime's job as battle commenter is really important to Ikemoto.

 

Fighting in Konoha. Nearly every fight has been in the village. I think I have gone over this before but let me go over it again. Beside getting sick of this story almost never leaving the blasted village. The other problem is power scale and other ninjas. In Naruto, battles rarely happened in the village, as shown when the Teams Sensei battle Itachi. Long battles tend to run the risk of other ninja sensing the battle happening and coming over to help their fellows. It also happened when Naruto and Sasuke fought on top of the hospital, Jiraiya and Kakashi both sensed it and rushed over. So, any fight needs to either be quick so the intruder isn't swarmed or you need someone so strong that it doesn't matter a la Pein. So, by constantly having the battles in the village, this in theory runs the risk that the old cast would and should sense what's happening and get involved. And they should still be, in theory, stronger then the current cast. So any fight the get involved with would and should be quickly resolved. However, Ikemoto doesn't want their involvement as he wants to focus on his own cast. So it leads to questions of are where are the adults and why are they so useless when they get involved? 

 

CJ's machinations. Now from what I understand he is slowly trying to increase the Boruto's cast powers by giving them the upgrades they would have learned later on to try to give the cast an edge. But at the same time try to keep it minor enough so Tree-Jenga doesn't feel threaten enough to stop kittening around and just kill everyone already. He let Blond-D die and was willing to let Konohamaru die was well because Salad's Gravity Ball power was so important. (Granted she unlocked those eyes at the end of part one and they still haven't given a good reason why couldn't they just tell her.) But now that has passed he can just give out the powers to the cast who will benefit that most in the upcoming fight. Of course there is a problem of this isn't very satisfying. The cast isn't training to discover and unlock new powers, they are been given cheat sheets. So when Bolt reveals his new sword and Blond Sai reveals his new mind power it isn't as satisfying or impressive. Also this can hamper their growth because they aren't learning or discovering on their own.

 

Explaining the powers. Normally, a manga would hint at what gimmick abilities someone uses so their opponent can show how smart they are for figuring out the gimmick mid fight and find a way to counter it. Both the hero and the villain can do it and in Naruto, especially in part one, both sides did. However, Ikemoto is terrible at anything that is standard for those fights. He does not know how to set up or limit powers so they become broken (until they are fixed later on.) For example, Moe's counter power was invincible when first introduced. Later on Ikemoto was order to add the requirement of contact for it to work. Second, is that normally the main character spends half the fight slowly trying to figure out the gimmick. You know in increments. "Ok, they are doing x. I see they can only do X with in a certain range. Oh they have a recharge rate of y many seconds. Oh they can't affect something or it has some sort of limit." Sometime it will be, "wait I got it their power isn't X its Z." In Boruto, anytime someone reveals a foe's powers it all at once and is accurate to the letter. It doesn't feel like they figured out their opponents power as much as they been given the script. So they don't come off as smart. Then, once they figure it out they have to come up with a way to counter it to defeat their foes. Which shows of the character's creativity, ingenuity, and adaptability. In Boruto, they just keep fighting till they win, at best they get a power up. I swear most fight end in part one with..."and Bolt activates his karma seal and it one-shots the enemy."

 

So, this revealing a power early is normally done because the opponents power is so strong or tricky; that the main character needs time to think of a way to beat it. Here, its so Ikemoto understands what the power is so he doesn't overhype it or make Tree-Bug unbeatable, because normally he gives them some powers that makes them dominate the first half of the fight till the contrivance happens (normally the karma seal activates and becomes an instant win.) Now, he as at least laid out how the fight will go. They have wait till Tree-Bug spams copies till their about 25 of them. Blond Sai will use his mind powers to screw with them. Bolt will combine his new super cool sword with Uzuhiko to one shot them or something.