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[Jenskott]

I don't know if those spoilers are true or not, but you shouldn't get your hopes up, even if they are true. They tell he talks with Hinata. We don't know what that talk is about. For all what we know, she tells she's realized Naruto loves Sakura and Kiba encourages her to never give up.

However, I see there's already a spoilers thread, so I guess my post is late.

[jacm]

some 451 spoilers have been released by 2ch today, don't know if it is legit or not but it mentions something about Kiba talking to Hinata. We'll have to wait until tomorrow for the official spoilers by Nja and spoiler pics by Ohana (one with colored fingernails).

thanks! i do hope this is true

[ciardha]

Sasuke is the series's biggest tool. His brother, Orochimaru, and now Madara have been able to consistently manipulate his behavior. It's one of the great ironies of his character.

Yeah, Itachi even told Naruto that Sasuke was very gullible, that anyone can manipulate him. Interestingly, it proved the point that Naruto is not gullible. Naruto might not be a genius but he can't be fooled. (And as the last arc proved Naruto has a lot more brains than he's given credit for. Rather than actually being stupid he's a person with a major learning disability-who are often quite intelligent, but they don't learn well the traditional way- Albert Einstein had a learning disability- and his elementary school teachers thought he was stupid, but yet he was a genius thinker who came up with the theory of relativity. People with learning disabilities must learn in nontraditional ways. They make that sudden grasp of a subject just like Kishimoto has Naruto do. Someone says something off hand and Boom! all of a sudden they know the answer. I can relate to Naruto that way because I'm that way- but I never struggled as much as Naruto, I just consistently had a GPA in the B- range, even though when my IQ was tested as a child I scored a 188. I wasn't lazy like Shikamaru, it was just the traditional classroom style learning was all wrong for me. I was a voracious reader on so many subjects (like Sakura and I'm still a "geek" on lots of subjects, not just pop culture stuff, but history, and several of the sciences and social sciences as well. I scored in the genius range for creative thinking, which is where Naruto's intelligence comes from too.)

[Nawheetos]

Yeah, Itachi even told Naruto that Sasuke was very gullible, that anyone can manipulate him. Interestingly, it proved the point that Naruto is not gullible. Naruto might not be a genius but he can't be fooled. (And as the last arc proved Naruto has a lot more brains than he's given credit for. Rather than actually being stupid he's a person with a major learning disability-who are often quite intelligent, but they don't learn well the traditional way- Albert Einstein had a learning disability- and his elementary school teachers thought he was stupid, but yet he was a genius thinker who came up with the theory of relativity. People with learning disabilities must learn in nontraditional ways. They make that sudden grasp of a subject just like Kishimoto has Naruto do. Someone says something off hand and Boom! all of a sudden they know the answer. I can relate to Naruto that way because I'm that way- but I never struggled as much as Naruto, I just consistently had a GPA in the B- range, even though when my IQ was tested as a child I scored a 188. I wasn't lazy like Shikamaru, it was just the traditional classroom style learning was all wrong for me. I was a voracious reader on so many subjects (like Sakura and I'm still a "geek" on lots of subjects, not just pop culture stuff, but history, and several of the sciences and social sciences as well. I scored in the genius range for creative thinking, which is where Naruto's intelligence comes from too.)

I've thought something similar - that and/or a simple lack of proper education/mental stimulation (the kind you would have as a young child from your family/carers - a lot of early learning happens at home, not at school) - which I guess would manifest in the same way. There have been a couple of instances in the manga where it seems to be suggested he has trouble reading, which kind of makes you wonder where ninja kids learn to read, seeing as they start the academy at what? 8? - and if anyone would be around to bother with teaching him. Things wouldn't go so well in school if you already had that kind of disadvantage. And, Naruto has demonstrated again and again that not only can he think on his feet like nobody's business, but he has a lot of 'emotional intelligence' or whatever you want to call it as well.

Uh, ok I'm rambling off topic here

The whole theory of Danzou = Madara would tie in with gullible Sasuke nicely... I keep talking about this theory. Stop OBSESSING, Der -smacks head-

I'd like to see a confrontation between Naruto and Sasuke pretty soon where Naruto gets to point what an idiot Sasuke is being

[Nee-sama]

I'd like to see a confrontation between Naruto and Sasuke pretty soon where Naruto gets to point what an idiot Sasuke is being

As long as he figures out, or someone teaches him, that tying Sasuke up is the only way to get him to have a rational conversation he can do all that and more!

[Derock]

Well I'm pleased to announce after talking to Smiter, that this thread will be moved to the Museum for your viewing pleasure. This thread has outrank Chapter 347, even our favorite moments in Chapters 296-97 threads.

So if everyone didn't get in more comments or discussion in this thread, please do so before I close it for the next chapter discussion. Thank you.

[Shadowmoon~]

Sasuke is easily manipulated, that's true. And he's gullible, that's true too.

Becuase of that characteristic, he did/said many unpleasant things, one I would like to point out, was the fact that he told Sakura that he's different than her and the other members of Team 7, and it was smart of him to realize that. Why? Because he is the only one on the team who doesn't trust himself, who doesn't follow whatever his heart is shouting to him. Naruto, Sakura, Sasuke, and Kakashi trust their instincts because they are ninjas, but Sasuke is the only one who doesn't just stop and listen to whatever his heart is saying.

It had been shown that he had developed a close, personal bond with Team 7, and that meant that his real self--deep down in his heart, had a somehow caring side to all of his friends and comrades. That was why Sasuke caught my attention. Not to mention, he was SUPER cute.

But, revenge was the one that blocked his heart, the one that made him blind, and also the one who made him break his bonds, causing everything to go wrong. He had forgotten who he really was, and was just being MANIPULATED by revenge itself, to destroy everything he once loved and held dear.

Had revenge slipped his mind/heart, even for a few seconds, Team 7 might have seen a real smile, the smile which Sasuke used to use a lot when he was younger, of course, before the assassination of the Uchiha clan.

The smile that made millions of girls go ga-ga over him. XDDD

In reality, revenge is not worth anything at all, it is just something that can ruin everything once it seeps into your heart, and it makes cute Uchiha boys seem so gullible.

And, that was just a short analyzation of mine about Sasuke's character. I'm done! Relieved, aren't you?

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I've posted in this topic already, and had said everything I wanted to say, but:

Yey! The hug! The hug! It was one of the most beautiful NaruSaku moments ever made. NaruSaku should be canon sooner! I just can't wait anymore!

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Wow, this is the 17th page! All of us NaruSaku'ers must be so darn excited! I can't wait to read Chapter 451. The suspense is killing me!

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Well I'm pleased to announce after talking to Smiter, that this thread will be moved to the Museum for your viewing pleasure. This thread has outrank Chapter 347, even our favorite moments in Chapters 296-97 threads.

So if everyone didn't get in more comments or discussion in this thread, please do so before I close it for the next chapter discussion. Thank you.

Awesome! The NaruSaku museum! It must be so ultimately COOL to have that posted there. I'm insanely happy.

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Btw, if someone can answer this, it would be really appreciated. Where can I find the NaruSaku Museum?

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Edited by Shadowmoon-Sakura, 12 June 2009 - 03:43 AM.

[gamemaster2]

Btw, if someone can answer this, it would be really appreciated. Where can I find the NaruSaku Museum?

It's right there on the front page. Scroll down past the general section until you get to the members list and then look above it; just go inside there and you'll see all of the preserved threads.

[Anewhope2]

Ok, where do i begin? Geez, I haven't read this good of a chapter in a long time. It had everything that this manga is all about.

We get to see Naruto being praised by his fellow villagers, this was indeed a touching moment for Naruto. After so many years of abuse and being excluded from the others, even though there was the previous chapter where the villagers refused to tell Pain where Naruto was, but alas he finally has his moment. This is what he has been waiting for his whole life.

Now... wasn't there a Narusaku moment in this chapter? JK

That whole sequence of pages was amazing, first comes Sakura, yelling and bopping on him for being too rash. And then out of nowhere a surprise hug from Sakura. I was like 'Amehgad' at it's apparent display of tenderness from it. But then again, you know what the naysayers say; "Like oh my god, that is so a friendship hug."

You know what i say?

I would say, "I will prove to you that's its more than that, by example."

Excerpt from YuYu Hakusho, final chapter --Click here to view--

Just pay attention to the last panel, see how Keiko's eyes are not visible.

Watch Sakura's eyes closely --Click here to view--

Notice the similarities? Both of the girls eyes are hidden. Why is that and how come it is relevant to NARUTO?

Because number one, that was a beautiful moment from one of my fav manga. Yusuke picked the blue button, which is Keiko's fav color, then he said a line "If they've got their god, then I got my goddess." Then it trigged a moment of bliss for her, even though no eyes are shown.. But you can fell the emotion of those eyes without showing them, thus creating a romantic moment.

So why am i giving this information?

Because they are all "Plot devices"

These moments are all standard plot devices for romance. Yes people, I am going to that extreme!

Alright now let me be clear and concise.

This is why I think that this particular Narusaku moment is golden. I think of this moment as the extroverted moment of chapter 297. Because remember Naruto was knocked out, so we all know the moment like we know how to walk. Sakura was shell shocked when Yamato said that, we all saw that look.

Now we have this, we have Sakura not just hugging him, but also affectionately grooming his hair. I once said, "The eyes tell a story." And like oh my god look at those eyes! Kishi is telegraphing us a message. He's giving us the green light! It just proves that this is the first big moment of affection. Ok the ramen shop scene was pretty good too, but this? This is like a revelation. This is the 2nd and the biggest scene yet from the chapters after 297. But also remember the first chapter from part 2? Yeah something tells me that this girl has some yet to be discovered feelings for him. 297? I call it "The discovery and the beginning of the roots of Narusaku" The moment after that was the first conscious moment of her trying to be a little flirty, i wish i can say that with 100% accuracy. But how can it not be that way as well?

Then this.. These 2 don't hug a lot. (1st time by the way.) Why don't they do it more often? Public affection is a bit taboo in Japan. Even then, why don't they hug each other privately?

Maybe, it's because in Japan (where this manga is made btw) hugging another girl/boy is like us americans kissing a girl/boy the first time. It's awkward, and you have to be sure that when you are doing it you know what and why you are doing that. And most of all, where your heart is.

Duh...

Jeez, i'm pooped.

Alright, it's like 4 o'clock in the morning, I'll elaborate on this more tomorrow

[Sakura Blossoms]

I'm just...impressed...that this chapter thread got so...HUGE XD

Nice job NaruSaku-ers :teehee:


Edit - Really great post btw, Anewhope2


Edit 2 -

Awesome! The NaruSaku museum! It must be so ultimately COOL to have that posted there. I'm insanely happy.

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Btw, if someone can answer this, it would be really appreciated. Where can I find the NaruSaku Museum?

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Here ya go

Museum of NaruSaku. Enjoy!

[Anewhope2]

I'm just...impressed...that this chapter thread got so...HUGE XD

Nice job NaruSaku-ers :teehee:


Edit - Really great post btw, Anewhope2

HUH? WHO WHAT WHERE?!

Must've woken up by your nice post, THX! Sorry, off topic. XD

[Derock]

Thank you very much. Now that the next chapter is released, it is time to move this baby to the Museum.

VIVA NaruSaku!!!